Donald Turner joined Spurs on amateur/part-time forms 1965, and would play for them at youth team and A team level during the 1965/66 and 1966/67 seasons. Turner was born in Finchley and brought up in Whetstone, and he was with QPR prior to joining Spurs as an amateur youth team player. Donald was a promising attacking-midfield player, who could also play at centre-forward. He left Spurs during the 1966/67 season, and he would later play non-League football for Walthamstow Avenue and Enfield. I recently had the great pleasure of talking to Donald Turner about his time at Spurs during the 1960s.

What are your earliest footballing memories? 

Donald: That would be playing football at school, and that was Queesnwell school in Friern Barnet Lane. I remember being at school when I was 5, and the earliest that you could play football at school was at eight, and so straight away I was interested in playing football. I can remember my first pair of football boots, and they weren’t the brand new boots of today that you just pull on, they were the ones with the big toe caps. Quite a few times I could remember my the studs on my boots actually come through and bit into my foot, because they were the only boots that my mother and father could afford. 

How did you come about joining Spurs? And what are your earliest memories of your time at the club?

Donald: I wasn’t signed on by QPR, but because I played for the Friern Barnet Boys. Club and also Middlesex Youth, our football manager Peter Johnson was friendly with the scout at QPR. There were about four players from our side that QPR took on, and so we played practice matches and everything else and so what happened was that out of the four of us, two of us got picked. And so we played in their Under 16’s team against Mansfield and another club. So what happened was that both of us got picked out and they offered me the actual captainship of the QPR Under 16’s team, but the manager knew a couple of people at Spurs and Arsenal, but mainly people at Arsenal. And so he told me that Spurs were after me, and I was so happy to hear that, being a Spurs fan. Back then QPR were in the old English Third Division, and so naturally being a Spurs supporter I thought to myself here we go, I’m off to Spurs. The first time that I played in a real Spurs match was in a youth game at White Hart Lane against Crystal Palace, but the first actual match was at Cheshunt. And that game was against either Millwall or Brentford, and I scored in that game and so straight away they asked me if I would sign forms with the club. So they are my first memories at the club.

Did you have any footballing heroes/inspirations? And if so who were they?

Donald: When I first went down to Spurs, Dave Mackay was absolutely superb. Also, as a fan I used to really like watching Cliff Jones, Bobby Smith and John White, as they were all heroes of mine. And in the defence Maurice Norman was absolutely titanic, but my big football hero was Jimmy Greaves, and I used to watch him and he was just unbelievable. 

Who were your greatest influences at Spurs?

Donald: The only person that I could honestly say had an influence on me was Eddie Baily. Sometimes I wouldn’t be in the first 11 for Spurs, and Eddie would say to me to get myself organised and it’s your time to go on the pitch, if nothing was happening. To be quite honest he was good to me. He was a hard man who would want you to do exactly as he said 

Could you describe to me what type of player you were? And also what positions you played in during your time at Spurs?

Donald: I was kind of like what you would nowadays call an attacking-midfield player. I was always put in at left-half or inside-left, and when I played in the FA Youth Cup side against West Ham I must admit that they probably thought that they had the better players in the middle, and so they put me out on the wing. Personally I thought that that was a bit of a waste of time, but when you go and play in the FA Youth Cup at Upton Park against West Ham, and you’re playing against Brooking, Redknapp and Lampard, well you’re just up in the air. Funnily enough when I played for the Spurs A team against Hillingdon, they put me at centre-forward. I was always the kind of player that wanted to score.

Were there any players at Spurs who you would watch closely to try and improve your game or look to learn from?

Donald: Dave Mackay. I was a player who could play left-half, and Dave Mackay was a superb player who was also a real professional. There was one player who was in the reserves a lot, and that was Tony Marchi. But if ever someone was injured then he would play in any position and play a great game, and yet still he wouldn’t get picked each week. 

What was your time at the Lilywhites like on the whole?

Donald: I was three foot taller when I was at Spurs! I remember when I was at Cheshunt and we were training, and Pat Jennings had recently been signed by Watford, and when I saw him I thought to myself that that’s what I want to be, and I wanted to be a footballer. And I tried really hard to become a footballer, but it came to a point where I was playing for the South-East Counties Under 16’s, Under 18’s and the FA Youth Cup side and the A team. And so I thought to myself, why hadn’t I been offered an apprenticeship? Being big headed I said to Bill Nicholson that I needed to be signed, and so he said that he needed another six months to make his mind up. But I thought that I couldn’t keep doing this, and so I thought that I’ve got to say to him that you either want me or you don’t. And so in the end he said nice to meet you lad and you have helped us, but I’m awfully sorry but goodbye. And so in the end that was it. I thought to myself that I couldn’t say please sign me, and so in the end I just left. And so that was it in the end.

What was the greatest moment of your footballing career?

Donald: I was playing for the England Boys club and we played Wales at Wycombe Wanderers’ ground. We were 1-0 down when I scored a goal from 25 yards, and that feeling was just unreal. Because it was the first one that was just unreal, and it’s hard to explain. Also, when I was with Middlesex Youth we went to The Netherlands to play in a tournament, which was held over a week. We won the tournament and I was voted the best player of the tournament by two Ajax players. I received a model of a footballer on a wooden carved block. I’m very proud of that. Another great moment/memory was when my old football manager at the Friern Barnet Boys Club had five complimentary tickets for the 1966 World Cup final at Wembley. So I got to attend the final.

Who was the greatest player that you have had the pleasure of sharing a pitch with? 

Donald: I should think that it must be either Frank Lampard Senior or Trevor Brooking, but I would say Lampard, because he was a really, really powerful player. And Trevor Brooking was just as good as he was when he was a professional, as at that time he’d put the ball over you or push it around you and score a goal. And at Spurs I would have to say John Pratt and Jimmy Neighbour, as they were the ones who were outstanding that I remember well, and who made it. But I was with players at Spurs like Ray Bunkell and John Clancy, and John Cutbush, and I thought that I was of the same class as those good players, and without being a bit big headed, maybe even a bit over. I couldn’t understand how I didn’t get an apprenticeship at Spurs. Also, John Conway (former Spurs apprentice) used to live eight houses up the street in Barnet, and he could have been a very good footballer.

Could you talk me through some of your favourite memories or ones which stand out from your time in the Spurs Youth sides?

Donald: The favourite one has to be that cup match against Crystal Palace. They were 2-1 down and Bill Nicholson was there watching the game, and I scored twice and we won 5-2, and afterwards he came into the dressing room with a bottle of bubbly and he handed it to me and told me that I’d played really well. So then I was sort of eight foot up in the air and I thought that this was it. So then later on to be told that I wasn’t quite there as a footballer, that was hard. 

Were there any players at Spurs who you were particularly close to?

Donald: When we got together as players I was close to Ray Bunkell, John Clancy and also Brian Parkinson. But I was friendly with all of the players and I didn’t get into a bad argument with any of them. 

Could you talk me through your career after you left the Lilywhites? And what prompted you to leave the club?

Donald: I thought that I was up to that standard at Spurs, and I had been there for just over 15 months, and I thought that I could be an apprentice. So me being me I asked Bill Nicholson, as so he said that he needed another six months, and so I thought to myself that I couldn’t stay around because I was just over 17, and I felt that I needed an apprenticeship now, or just find somewhere else to go. So that’s the reason why I left Spurs. After leaving Spurs I went to Walthamstow Avenue, and Charlton Athletic had been watching me and wanted to sign me. And They (Walthamstow Avenue) wanted me to play on the Friday, Saturday and the Monday over the Easter, as they were competing to be top of their league. However, I broke my leg and so I was in plaster for almost a year. It took me almost two years before I signed for Enfield and met my wife and moved up to Bedford. And so I didn’t play any sort of top football afterwards.

What would your advice be to the young Spurs players of today as they look to progress up the youth ranks?

Donald: You’ve got to eat the right food and also train so hard. But you’ve got to let people know that you can read a game and you’ve got to let them know that whatever happens that you don’t give up. You’ve got to listen to the people in charge and try to the best of your ability. 

After all these years how do you look back on your time at the Lilywhites? And is Spurs a club that you still hold close to your heart?

Donald: Yes. It was a small amount of time in my life, but I wanted it and although I didn’t get it I’m still Spurs through and through, and I’m a big Spurs fan.

Paul Shoemark was a very highly rated England Schoolboys international, who had a very impressive goals to games ratio for his country at that level. Born and brought up in Wellingborough, Northamptonshire, Paul Shoemark played local football in the Wellingborough area prior to playing for England Schoolboys. He was in the same England Schoolboys side as Peter Shilton, Alan Evans and John Stenson. And it was with England that the very highly rated young footballer was being scouted by a number of top clubs. In his last game for the England Schoolboys side, Paul Shoemark scored two goals against West Germany in Berlin. Clubs such as Arsenal, Southampton, Coventry City and obviously Spurs, all wanted to sign him. However, in the end Paul made the decision to join Bill Nicholson’s Spurs in 1965. He joined the club as an apprentice for the start of the 1965/66 season, and of those in his age group at Spurs, Paul came further away from Spurs, than any of the other apprentices and part-time/amateur youth players.

Although Paul joined Spurs as a centre-forward, he also played as an inside-forward, during his time at the club. With outstanding pace and an excellent low centre of gravity, Shoemark was a great finisher inside the penalty area, and he was also good with both feet. As one of the two forward players in the Spurs Youth and A side, Shoemark was strong on the ball and was capable of shielding it well. However, it was his brilliant pace, skill on the ball and finishing ability which made him one of the most highly rated youth footballers in England during the mid 1960s. Joining Spurs as a Youth team player in 1965, Shoemark played in the same Spurs youth side as future Spurs first team player Ray Evans, and during his first season at the club, Paul was a member of the Spurs youth side that won the South-East Counties League Division II, scoring five goals from nine league games. Shoemark was a clever player, and just like some of the more recent players that Spurs fans will remember who have played for the club and youth level, and who have been described as outstanding prospects, such as Terry Dixon, Shaun Murray and Marcus Edwards, well Paul had exactly the same amount of hype around him, at Spurs and around England.

Paul Shoemark would progress up to the senior Spurs youth side, into the A team for matches in the Metropolitan League, and also to the Spurs reserves, later on in the 1960s. Playing alongside the likes of future Spurs first team players Steve Perryman, Jimmy Pearce and the previously mentioned Ray Evans, would have been great for the young Paul Shoemark. Paul joined the Spurs first team on the coach to an away game at Northampton (near to where Paul is from), during the mid 1960s, and he would sit on the touchline for that game, in what must have been a very special day for him. Other memorable moments for Paul during his time at the club, would have been travelling to a tournament in The Netherlands with the Spurs Youth team, being a member of the Spurs A team that won the Metropolitan League and also just being at such a top club, at such a special time. I recently spoke with former Spurs player Terry Naylor, and he spoke very highly of Paul Shoemark’s ability at Spurs.

Paul later played non-League football for Hatfield Town, Kings Lynn and Downham Market after leaving Spurs in 1969. I had the great pleasure of interviewing Paul about his time at Spurs in 2021, and I was also very happy when he attended my mid 1960s Spurs Youth team reunion last summer. He is a really top man, who I believe was very unlucky to not have featured for the Spurs first team during his time at the club in the 1960s, owing to the fact that the first team and reserves were just so incredibly strong. However, Paul has so much to be proud about, looking back on his time at Spurs and his overall footballing career.

Anthony George Want joined Spurs as an apprentice professional in 1964. He would sign professional forms with the club in 1965, and would work his way up from the youth teams into the A team, and later the reserve side. The Hackney born former England Youth international was a tough and defensively solid full-back who read the game well. Want would go on to make 56 competitive first team appearances for Spurs (he made his competitive debut in the March of 1968). Tony Want had a lot of competition in the full-back roles, and would leave Spurs to sign for Birmingham City in the summer of 1972, and would become a regular and important player for them during the six years that we was there. He would spend the final years of his football career in America. I recently had the great pleasure and privilege of speaking with Tony about his time at Spurs.

What are your earliest footballing memories?

Tony: I suppose it would be playing on Hackney Marshes for your local team on a Sunday morning or a Saturday afternoon. I was only about 11/12 then, but as it went on and when I was about 13, one of the scouts saw me playing in a match. I’ll always remember his name, and his name was Dickie Walker, and he found loads of famous players, and he was from east London himself. The lad who used to do the scouting with him was Ronnie Clayton (Eddie Clayton’s brother), and he was a good man who was always smart and well dressed. But Dickie Walker saw me and asked me if I wanted to train at Spurs, and that was it. So I would go training twice a week, and so that’s my earliest memories of my time at Tottenham.

What are your earliest memories of your time at Spurs?

Tony: That would be the apprenticeship itself. One of the first things that you were told by the more senior players was to build yourself up. There used to be a fight everyday in the gym! I’ll always remember Johnny Wallis, as he used to look after us apprentices. 

Did you have any footballing heroes/inspirations and if so who were they?

Tony: Players like Dennis Law and Bobby Charlton were the ones, and then as I got a little bit older there was Jimmy Greaves. I think that as a youngster your favourite players are the ones who score the goals, rather than a centre-half for example, but that’s how it was. 

Who were your greatest influences at Spurs?

Tony: The biggest influence was without doubt Dave Mackay. And you could ask players like Graeme Souness, and he’d say the same. Dave Mackay had a massive influence on the youth players at Spurs. Pre-season was the only time that we used to play on green grass in training, as during the season we used to run around the pitch at the ground, and then play in the gym on concrete, and so the football was one and two touch football. If you were on Dave Mackay’s side you were his friend, but if you were playing against him then he’d give you a really difficult time in matches. I remember him saying to a few lads in pre-season if they wanted to stay out and practice training, and he was someone who would stay out there with you for half an hour to help you improve a part of your game. He was without a doubt my biggest influence at Spurs. And I’m sure that he was Brian Clough’s biggest influence, when he took him to Derby.

Could you describe to me what type of player you were and what positions you played in during your time at Spurs?

Tony: I went there as a midfield player who got goals, but I never played a game for Tottenham in midfield, because in a couple of weeks of being there they started playing me at full-back. In them days all the wingers were very quick, and so they wanted someone like me, who was reasonably quick but who could also give them a bit of stick as well. So I played in that position for Spurs from youth team level, and then when I got called into the England Under 19 squad during the World Cup year of 1966, the man who was running the team asked me if I could play in midfield, as I could get forward. We played a lot of games (around 28), and not all against international teams. We played against sides like Manchester United Under 21’s and Arsenal Under 21’s, when we were all Under 19’s. So I played all of those matches in midfield. I liked playing in midfield as it obviously meant that you got forward and got chances to score goals. In those days if you played at left-half then your responsibility was to defend against the inside-right. And so you couldn’t get forward as the inside-right was your responsibility. So there was a lot of man to man marking in those days, in football. I loved those early days at Tottenham, and although I never had to do national service, it was a bit like that in those days, as you weren’t going to make it if you were relaxed.

Were there any players at Spurs who you would watch closely to try and improve your game or look to learn from?

Tony: I suppose it depends on your position, but for me Dave Mackay was a massive inspiration. Outside of Spurs someone I always liked was Franz Beckenbauer, as he was someone who could do everything, and he showed this at World Cup’s. He was brilliant. 

Could you talk me through your memories of your competitive first team debut for Spurs, in a league game against West Brom in the March of 1968? And how did that day come about?

Tony: I remember that Terry Venables had a bet with someone that I’d get in the Spurs first team before the Christmas of the 1967/68 season. However, it went past Christmas and then into March, and what was ironic about that West Brom game was that Jimmy Greaves was waiting for either his 200th or 300th league goal. And I remember the game finishing 0-0, as I so wanted him to score. But I didn’t find the game any different, although it was a good game for me as we never looked like conceding a goal. And I was also expected to get forward from full-back, which was good as well. 

What was your time at the Lilywhites like on the whole?

Tony: Well I liked it, but in the end I probably stayed a couple of seasons too long. In them days you only had one sub, and for example Jimmy Pearce was a sub for Spurs in home games very often. Whereas when we played matches away I was the sub, although Cyril Knowles used to do what he could to make sure that I could get my appearance money, and the money between then and now in football is so different. However, although I probably stayed a bit too long, I loved my time at Spurs. All you wanted to do was play, as a footballer, and so rather than being a standby at Spurs I moved to Birmingham City, and I loved it there as well. After training at Birmingham it was a bit different to being at Spurs, as at Spurs everyone used to go their own way, but at Birmingham a good number of us used to go out together after training. 

What prompted you to leave Spurs and could you talk me through your career after you left the Lilywhites?

Tony: I had a phone call from Bill Nicholson one day, and he said that a decent financial offer had come in, and so I said yes. And so I went up to Birmingham and I liked what I saw, and the manager of Birmingham at the time even said to Bill Nicholson that I had probably wasted a few years of my career by staying on a bit too long with Spurs. After spending some great years with Birmingham City I continued my playing career in America (Tony played for Philadelphia Atoms, Minnesota Kicks and Philadelphia Fury) and that was a great time. I first went to play for Philadelphia Atoms, and I was there for a couple of months, which was a great experience. As was the whole experience of playing in America.

What was the greatest moment of your footballing career?

Tony: I didn’t ever win a cup, so I can’t say that. But as for matches there were many, such as games against the likes of Liverpool. There are also great memories of playing for England at youth level, as well. And there were so many great players in that England team. 

Who was the greatest player that you have had the pleasure of sharing a pitch with? 

Tony: I would have to say when I was in America, when I got to play against the very best players right from 1978, although not the very best on the day. By the very best I mean Franz Beckenbauer, Johan Cruyff, Eusébio and George Best, although Pelé had just retired then. But you had teams with great players, such as New York Cosmos, who had six players who had just won the World Cup.

Could you talk me through some of your favourite memories or ones which stand out from your time in the Spurs youth teams, A team and reserves?

Tony: The Spurs Youth team that I was a part of was really successful. We won the South-East Counties League countless times and also the Southern Junior Floodlit Cup, which everyone loved as they were played at night. In the Spurs programmes at the time, they used to have listed the First Division, the Football Combination for the reserves, and then you had the Metropolitan League which was for the A team, and then you had the Southern Junior League and also the Juniors side. One day my dad spotted in the Spurs programme that every different Spurs team were top of their respective league, at one point of the season. However, coming through the ranks at Spurs, we must have won about 90% of our games up until I got into the first team. We also won the London Challenge Cup three times, and what amazed me was that we played top amateur teams like Enfield Town, and I remember when we played them that they didn’t even get a kick of the ball. They had decent players and yet us who were in the reserve team at 17/18 won the match 4-1. Then when you do progress into the Spurs first team you find it difficult at times and then easy at other times, but Spurs in the 1960s were terrific. 

I remember after Spurs had won the 1967 FA Cup final, that they played a Celtic side who had just won the European Cup, at Celtic Park in a friendly in front of a sell out crowd. And Spurs recorded a 3-3 draw in that game, and so they never even lost that. To have won the European Cup meant that you had to be the best of the best. I remember then going up to Old Trafford to watch Spurs in the Charity Shield, and Bill Nicholson couldn’t believe that I’d traveled up there on my own to watch the game. He had seen me and my friend who was an Arsenal fan, and he asked me to stay where I was in the stadium after the match and then he’d take us down to the dressing room, where the players were. I remember that the game ended in a draw and so both teams had to share the cup. But my mate who was an Arsenal supporter couldn’t believe it as we came back in the Pullman’s carriage on the train with the team. While I was at Spurs as a young player I’ll always remember us being told to tuck our shirts in and pull our socks down, as we were representing Tottenham Hotspur. 

Could you talk me through some of your favourite memories or ones which stand out from your time with the Spurs first team?

Tony: My first team debut against West Brom really stands out, but then there’s other games that I played in, that you don’t even remember that you played in, whereas in other games you remember the little things that standout. We won at Arsenal quite a few times, which I remember, and they always used to finish above us in the league at that era. One game that I’ll always remember, was playing against Liverpool in the sixth round of the FA Cup. Jimmy Greaves scored the opening goal, but then Liverpool equalised later on in the game, and so the game went to a replay. So that game does standout, but as for the games with the best atmospheres, they would be the games between Spurs and West Ham.

Who was the toughest player that you ever came up against?

Tony: That would probably be Peter Thompson of Liverpool. I had a difficult game against him one time at right-back, and I remember that Bill Nicholson selected Alan Mullery to play at right-back in another game, against Peter Thompson. I remember at half-time in that game after Peter Thompson had given Alan a really difficult first half, that Alan said to Bill Nicholson to never, ever play him at right-back again. I was sitting in the dugout with Joe Kinnear, who had been dropped for that game, and he said to me that we’ve just got to sit back and watch the Peter Thompson show! However, going back to your question there’s so many players, and in particular wingers who were so good and difficult to play against.

Were there any players at Spurs who you were particularly close to?

Tony: It was mainly John Pratt, as he was from Hoxton, and I was from very close to Hoxton, in Hackney. However, he wasn’t at the club when I signed as an apprentice, and there was really no one from my area at the club when I joined as an apprentice. But me and John Pratt did a lot of things together when we were both at the club, and for example we’d go out for a drink together on a Saturday night. Terry Venables always got on with me at Spurs, and years later when I bumped into him when he was the Crystal Palace manager, he said that we’ve got a player at Crystal Palace who will make it, and that he really reminded him of me. And his name was Kenny Samson. So I got on well with Terry Venables.

What would your advice be to the young Spurs players of today as they look to break into the first team?

Tony: I honestly wouldn’t know now, as it’s totally different. In my day the manager did everything, and no one answered back to him. It was very different in those days. For example in my day we used to have a fillet steak before games, and when I first went to play football in America I was asked what I wanted to eat, and so I said a fillet steak. The man who asked me thought I was joking, as he said that I wouldn’t get one ounce of energy from that fillet steak during the game that I was going to play.

After all these years how do you look back on your time at the Lilywhites and is Spurs a club that you still hold close to your heart?

Tony: Oh yes. My whole family are Spurs supporters. I still remember when Dickie Walker and Ronnie Clayton used to send two tickets for me to watch the first team, when I first joined Spurs as a youngster, and I remember going into the tearoom at the ground, which the players also used to use. They were great times at Spurs.

Anthony Brian Smith was one of the finest youth teams prospects in the Spurs youth system during the 1950s/60s era. Born in Lavenham, Suffolk, on the 5th of October 1941, the talented centre-half who could also play at left-half, grew up in Royston, Hertfordshire. The player who once represented the old FA Youth XI, was as a schoolboy footballer, scouted by a number of top sides. Smith trialled with Millwall and even Manchester United for a time, before signing for Spurs, initially joining as an amateur in the summer of 1957. The defender would later sign professional forms with Spurs just under two years later. In those early days at Spurs, when Tony was playing for the talented Spurs Youth team, one of Tony’s teammates was a future Spurs Deputy Chairman, the late Tony Berry, and also future Spurs first team player Frank Saul. Part of the Spurs Youth sides which went on tour to Switzerland, Germany and the Netherlands, to participate in tournaments, those early days at Spurs would have been memorable for Tony.

A highly skilful and vocal defender who read the game really well, Tony Smith is also remembered well by some of his old Spurs teammates, for his excellent ball juggling skills. After progressing up to the old Spurs A side, where he won a number of Eastern Counties League titles, Smith was soon playing regularly for the Spurs reserve side. In one such season (1961/62), Tony made 30 appearances for the Spurs reserve side in the Football Combination League (the second most appearances of anyone in the Spurs side), and that was a season which Spurs won the league in. Back in the October of 1959, Tony Smith would make the first of two first team appearances (in friendly matches). He was 18 when he debuted for the Spurs first team in a friendly against Reading. Smith made his other first team appearance in 1964, this time in a friendly with Leytonstone. He would remain a regular for the Spurs reserve side up until leaving the club in the spring of 1966.

Upon leaving Spurs, Tony Smith moved to South Africa to join a team called Southern Suburbs. Spending the rest of his footballing career in South Africa, the former Spurs man would also play for Addington (Spurs legend Peter Baker was the manager during that time), Durban Spurs, Durban United, Durban City and Hillary. Smith would later go into management, becoming the manager of South African side Bush Bucks for a time during the early 1980s. Although he didn’t get to play for the Spurs first team in a competitive fixture, owing to some of the international players in front of him at Spurs during the early 1960s, just like all of the Spurs  players who were at the club at that incredible time in it’s history, and who worked their way up the ranks at the club, Tony should be very proud of all that he achieved in his playing career. He was like others, very unlucky to not really have been given a chance with the first team at Spurs, but he was very highly thought of at the club, by teammates and coaches alike.

Tony Smith is now retired and still living in South Africa.